Trail status postings

[Chief Illiniwek]

WOW! As they say Ginger "don't go away mad, just go away"!

JB

[Jones]

Dear Salsa rider, you should be embarassed by a comment like that, considering you are a board member. Read my original post... your people flamed me.

[PAGS]

Dear Salsa rider, you should be embarassed by a comment like that, considering you are a board member. Read my original post... your people flamed me.

Dear Ginger,

It is a shame that your original post was so negative and belligerent toward FORC. There are better ways to express your opinions without pissing everyone off. These same people are the ones who would help pick you up off the trail and dust you off and get you on your way.

Your Posts = Epic Fail

[forcmeister]

So, Ginger, you've been this great mountain biker all these years, what have you done to help promote the sport? We've been at this for the last twelve years, working to turn around the negative image that mountain bikers have been given. That we are not just a bunch of Mountaindew drinking punks that are going to go out and tear up the trails and have no respect for the land. And due to those efforts we now have several trails in this area, a couple great races a year and people coming from all over to ride are trails
My advice to you would be, if you think you can do something better, than do it, don't sit there and complain about it. If you enjoy mountain biking as much as it sounds like you do and there is something that you think that we cound do better, don't just start casting stones at the ones that are tryng to help, give a hand, get invoved.

FM

[Rage]

Read my original post... your people flamed me.

Good suggestion, let's do that:

Because of FORC, SCP is now shut down when wet, when in the past, it was always open and up to our discretion to ride. You wanted it, you got it, now be responsible for accurately displaying the open or closed info.
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This was always a pain in the @$$ at Sugarbottom after Ranger Rick handed over control of the trails to ICORR.

Ginger, it's pretty clear you wanted to pick a fight with the club, and you successfully found one. It's unfortunate, but understandable, that this type of diatribe quickly escalates to personal attacks. Understandable, because so many people have struggled for many years to gain access to develop and promote mountain bike trails in this area, and attacks on those efforts are taken as personal attacks. Unfortunate, because rather than become another voice of support for the continued development of our sport, you have positioned yourself as longing for the return of poorly designed and maintained trails built without the support of public land managers.

If you spent the time to take a quick look at our forum threads, you would find that we have not been thrilled at the trail opening delays at SCP this year either. And you also would find that we've been working with the Rangers there to improve the situation, as well as improve our communication of trail status. Positive reinforcement from trail users outside of our club is very helpful to bring about this change; negative campaigning is not.

I think you've missed a critical point regarding Sugar Bottom. Yes, it's a bummer when the trails are closed due to conditions, and it's an inconvenience to call to find this status, but Sugar Bottom remains one of the best riding destinations in this area despite the large number of riders that use it precisely because they manage the trails. We expect the Quad Cities to soon be recognized as a first-class riding destination in this area because of our well designed, maintained, and managed mountain bike trails.

My suggestion: cool off, think about it, come help make a difference.

PM me anytime, or dropa dime: 781-1217.
Rg.