No sore subject man, if I came out like that I apologize. The debate over brand name vs budget to me is a bit amusing so when it comes up I just like to put my experiences in there since I was a WalMart bike rider my first season.

The downside on a forum discussion, sometimes hard to tell if someone is actually bothered or not, if its me, never bothered by anyone in this club, you all are way to much fun.

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