Thank you FORC for the treasure hunt with great reward. That trail was a blast and threw me off quite a bit. Im pretty sure I got poison ivy but it was well worth it. Just the entrance to the black diamond hand a great tree ride and an up and over that had me over the handle bars the first time. All and all this is my new favorite though I have not tried L.T. at Sunderburch. Hopefully some others will post on their first time on this well kept secret.