If you get egg beaters make sure to get SL's, not the C's. The SL's are made of stainless steel and the C's are made of a cheap carbon steel. Any prolonged riding in bad conditions on the C's will chew them up pretty bad and I've had a couple wings break off on some old sets of C's (you can still ride them like this, just with less entry points.) I think of lot of the bad reviews are for the C's and for this reason.